Gate Lice
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I just filed a complaint here with Fodors' Standards and Decency department that nobody asked whom that actor was.
Once again all you narcissists talking about yourselves, when you should be talking about me!
I am done. the distraught
Once again all you narcissists talking about yourselves, when you should be talking about me!
I am done. the distraught
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“The overhead screens at the gates show which group is boarding, but announcements are hard to hear in noisy airports”
….I’m surprised at the modern airports without overhead screens at the gates to advise of the announcements / and board calls.
Only once on my last trip, was there even movable signage that staff brought out with group number on it.
That was not easy to see as blocked by passengers but it was better than no physical signage.
I found being hard of hearing the most stressful part of travelling solo.
….I’m surprised at the modern airports without overhead screens at the gates to advise of the announcements / and board calls.
Only once on my last trip, was there even movable signage that staff brought out with group number on it.
That was not easy to see as blocked by passengers but it was better than no physical signage.
I found being hard of hearing the most stressful part of travelling solo.
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I once had a different boarding group than my mom and friend who wre traveling with me under my account. I was first and asked them both if they were OK to boarding when they were called. I was told yes which was a huge mistake. My mom had a meltdown claiming to have lost her passport. She had it in her hand when I boarded. After I no longer did that and would board with her if her group was after mine. I never thought to say we both should board n the earlier group if that wasn't true.
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**I don’t know what PNR means. **
Passenger name record which is on your ticket and how the airline accesses the info - it's your digital record. Everyone on Flyertalk uses PNR.
~~PNR is the abbreviation of Passenger Name Record and it is a digital certificate allowing passengers to do online check-in or manage their bookings in a short time. Also used as booking number, Passenger Name Record is a code with 6 alphanumeric characters (letters and numbers are used together).~~
** We don’t always book two tickets at the same time, or one of us may be using a company credit card and the other using miles.**
That is buying separate tickets so you lose out if one person has status (and you don't) on upgrades and other status perks.
If you buy two tickets for you and your husband in the same transaction, have both your AA FF numbers listed at time of purchase, you will have the same PNR and the same boarding group. You would only have different PNR's if you purchase the tickets separately and you would not get the benefits of the other person's status (upgrades, free luggage, preferred seats, same boarding group). Brian says AA does the same as Delta.
I can buy 9 tickets (max) for people at time of purchase and we would all be on my PNR. They would all get my boarding group and free luggage based on my status. They cannot get my upgrade though (and neither can I). You can only have one other person on your PNR for seat upgrades. Any more than that and you lose out on upgrade. That other person doesn't need status, but they must have an FF# with your airline to be eligible for the upgrade with you. Ditto if you buy tickets for 9 people traveling with you. They must join that airline's FF program to get your free luggage perks/preferred seating selection, free luggage . You need to enter their FF #'s at time of booking.
Passenger name record which is on your ticket and how the airline accesses the info - it's your digital record. Everyone on Flyertalk uses PNR.
~~PNR is the abbreviation of Passenger Name Record and it is a digital certificate allowing passengers to do online check-in or manage their bookings in a short time. Also used as booking number, Passenger Name Record is a code with 6 alphanumeric characters (letters and numbers are used together).~~
** We don’t always book two tickets at the same time, or one of us may be using a company credit card and the other using miles.**
That is buying separate tickets so you lose out if one person has status (and you don't) on upgrades and other status perks.
If you buy two tickets for you and your husband in the same transaction, have both your AA FF numbers listed at time of purchase, you will have the same PNR and the same boarding group. You would only have different PNR's if you purchase the tickets separately and you would not get the benefits of the other person's status (upgrades, free luggage, preferred seats, same boarding group). Brian says AA does the same as Delta.
I can buy 9 tickets (max) for people at time of purchase and we would all be on my PNR. They would all get my boarding group and free luggage based on my status. They cannot get my upgrade though (and neither can I). You can only have one other person on your PNR for seat upgrades. Any more than that and you lose out on upgrade. That other person doesn't need status, but they must have an FF# with your airline to be eligible for the upgrade with you. Ditto if you buy tickets for 9 people traveling with you. They must join that airline's FF program to get your free luggage perks/preferred seating selection, free luggage . You need to enter their FF #'s at time of booking.
#29
**My husband and I get seats together but we can be in different boarding groups depending on status, whether one of used miles or paid in full for a flight.**
I rarely fly AA so don't have status with them and don't know much about how theirs works. Are booking separate tickets, not on one PNR? I do have status with Delta. If I purchase tickets for me and a companion, both will have my boarding group based on my status and will be on my PNR. That person will also be eligible for upgrade with me based on my status as long as they have a Delta Skymiles number. They will get free baggage like I do too. If I put more people on my PNR, they can get my boarding order and free baggage, but I can't get upgrades. It has to be only me + 1 for upgrade elgibility.
**Including the lanky, fit 20-something skateboard-carrying young man, who, with his also young, fit female companion, somehow wrangled seats intended for people who need assistance -- thus depriving several other physically-challenged passengers of the opportunity to be accommodated. Interestingly, he had no problem hefting his skateboard onto the plane or single-handedly stowing it in an overhead bin without assistance.**'
**Though I wonder how you know who does/does not need assistance,***
You don't and Southwest is the worst for people taking advantage. There can be 10-15 people requiring wheelchairs to board, but miraculously, many of them don't need them to deplane (which typically requires waiting) and they rush right off. I think that's one reason they are switching to assigned seats.
They should tag people's carryon luggage and have sensors on the overhead bins. If you try to put in the wrong bin or more than one item, alarms go off and you have to pay or check the item.
I rarely fly AA so don't have status with them and don't know much about how theirs works. Are booking separate tickets, not on one PNR? I do have status with Delta. If I purchase tickets for me and a companion, both will have my boarding group based on my status and will be on my PNR. That person will also be eligible for upgrade with me based on my status as long as they have a Delta Skymiles number. They will get free baggage like I do too. If I put more people on my PNR, they can get my boarding order and free baggage, but I can't get upgrades. It has to be only me + 1 for upgrade elgibility.
**Including the lanky, fit 20-something skateboard-carrying young man, who, with his also young, fit female companion, somehow wrangled seats intended for people who need assistance -- thus depriving several other physically-challenged passengers of the opportunity to be accommodated. Interestingly, he had no problem hefting his skateboard onto the plane or single-handedly stowing it in an overhead bin without assistance.**'
**Though I wonder how you know who does/does not need assistance,***
You don't and Southwest is the worst for people taking advantage. There can be 10-15 people requiring wheelchairs to board, but miraculously, many of them don't need them to deplane (which typically requires waiting) and they rush right off. I think that's one reason they are switching to assigned seats.
They should tag people's carryon luggage and have sensors on the overhead bins. If you try to put in the wrong bin or more than one item, alarms go off and you have to pay or check the item.
Don't US domestic carriers all have assigned seats on all their flights? I can only imagine what a circus that would create if they don't!
In Australia, you can either choose your seat when you book or when you check-in online. I always choose mine when I book, think the system automatically assigns you one if you don't. Sometimes the seats I like aren't available when I book, but become available later, so I change then.
Everyone with a boarding pass has an assigned seat on it and that's where you sit.
Boarding queues are divided into General & Business/Gold or above FF status and the gate staff do ask if anyone needs assistance. I've not seen any obvious abuse of this. I used it with great embarassment & trepidation a couple of times after I had shingles & couldn't raise my left arm to put my bag in the overhead cabinet. A skate board would not be allowed as cabin bag on a domestic flight here.
Depending on the flights/carriers/airports Rows 1-13 board from the front of the plane & above 13 from the rear - with divided entrance chutes to keep pax separated & hasten the process. Where the airport doesn't have divided boarding chutes, they call by seat rows; some board from the forward rows, others from the rear.
We have enough hassle even with the reasonably well enforced cabin bag limits, with gormless troglydytes trying to shove their bags in storage cabinets closer to the front than their assigned seats.
Occasionally, a flight attendant will ask someone to move after boarding is finished so parents can sit with children/couples sit together if they haven't been able to choose adjoining seats when they book. I'll usually move - provided the alternative seat isn't in the middle or way down the back. Scored a Business Class swap on a flight to Perth once. A fellow was flying Business and discovered an old friend was on the same flight - in my row. So he came back a few rows to sit with his mate and I moved into his BC seat. That's a 5 hour flight, so I was very happy to swap.
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Ky - we recently flew on miles (him) and me (full price) and had to have our own reservations. Couldn’t do it under his account (that I’m aware of).
we fly AA almost exclusively because we’re in DFW
we fly AA almost exclusively because we’re in DFW
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We have United, Delta, and Alaska as our options. So we connect through Denver, SLC, or Seattle. Those connections are usually short, and we are on small flights that arrive at gates a long ways from the larger gates. That’s why we never check bags. I don’t care if I have to pay for overhead bin space; I just want a spot in the bin!
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Bokhara2, All US carriers except Southwest require you to book a specific seat. Southwest is, very sadly, changing to be like all the rest next year. To travel on Southwest, you buy a ticket and go to the gate. You get two checked bags free, plus one carryon and a "personal" item, like a purse. For boarding, people with disabilities or wheelchairs ( I have only ever seen two or three) board first. You can pay more to board early. Some people pay an additional amount ($25-$30 or so per flight) for Early Check In, when the Southwest computer does it all for you 36 hours before your flight.. The rest of us check in ourselves 24 hours before your flight. However you check in, you get a boarding number. Passengers line up behind signs that display the numbers. These signs are fixed at every Southwest gate. First, they'll do A 1-30 and A 31-60. Once those people have boarded, they'll do the same thing for B and C. It's very orderly and people are pretty friendly, in my experience. Anyone who doesn't like it could use any other airline. But, no, they whine and complain, some people spoil it for everyone else, and now they're changing it. Most likely because, like all the other airlines, they'll make more money with all those extra charges. They are keeping the two free checked bags, though. For now anyway.
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I am confused reading about gate lice. Am I a gate louse? I am the first in line behind the sign for Group 2, 3 etc., whatever my boarding pass says, but I would never try to jump the line. I usually fly Air France. I just want to get to my seat, put my small carry on in the bin and get myself sorted for the flight. AF seems to have a good system of having to scan the boarding pass when called.
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'I don’t care who your actor is...'
We see Zebec reclined on the couch at his therapist's office, a pile of Kleenex below on the floor.
Z: "Doc! Doc! Then they said that they didn't even care and everything!"
(sound of exploding weeps)
NYSE, it was kinda funny. The *actor was standing there with a serious expression and we just assumed that the rep was going to escort him to be first on the plane. But then suddenly, another rep beckoned us first. LOL! I almost turned to the actor with a shrug. Minutes later, he tagged along behind us and went into first class. We were in biz.
*It was 'Josh' from The West Wing, Bradley Whitford.
I am done. the historic election
We see Zebec reclined on the couch at his therapist's office, a pile of Kleenex below on the floor.
Z: "Doc! Doc! Then they said that they didn't even care and everything!"
(sound of exploding weeps)
NYSE, it was kinda funny. The *actor was standing there with a serious expression and we just assumed that the rep was going to escort him to be first on the plane. But then suddenly, another rep beckoned us first. LOL! I almost turned to the actor with a shrug. Minutes later, he tagged along behind us and went into first class. We were in biz.
*It was 'Josh' from The West Wing, Bradley Whitford.
I am done. the historic election
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okay zebec . next question.
Who is "Josh" from the West Wing, Bradley Whitford. !!!???????????
Are these guys suppose to be "stars" !
gomiki I have to admit I have never heard the term gate lice applied.
But at airports I have been to I have always seen the people that are being called Gate Lice here !! Hmmm!!!..
Who is "Josh" from the West Wing, Bradley Whitford. !!!???????????
Are these guys suppose to be "stars" !
gomiki I have to admit I have never heard the term gate lice applied.
But at airports I have been to I have always seen the people that are being called Gate Lice here !! Hmmm!!!..
#36
**Hi KYB, I've been following this thread & am curious -I think that's one reason they are switching to assigned seats.
Don't US domestic carriers all have assigned seats on all their flights? I can only imagine what a circus that would create if they don't!**
Southwest (aka Southworst) doesn't have assigned seats for anyone. You can pay extra to be in the first boarding group of about 60 people and try to grab a seat you want. The problem is they let people that "need assistance" (no proof required) board first so many people claim they need assistance. Also, people that pay to be in the first group will often pay the extra just for one person in their family and try to hold seats for the others that didn't pay for early boarding. There is no first/business class seating/amenities, only cattle class. Southwest doesn't have any power supply for passengers either, but some of their planes (not all) will when they switch to assigned seats.
**Depending on the flights/carriers/airports Rows 1-13 board from the front of the plane & above 13 from the rear - with divided entrance chutes to keep pax separated & hasten the process. Where the airport doesn't have divided boarding chutes, they call by seat rows; some board from the forward rows, others from the rear.**
That's not done here that I know of, but a few airports might have a bit of tarmac boarding (I've had to do that at Charlotte airport on an AA flight). Are stairs involved?
Don't US domestic carriers all have assigned seats on all their flights? I can only imagine what a circus that would create if they don't!**
Southwest (aka Southworst) doesn't have assigned seats for anyone. You can pay extra to be in the first boarding group of about 60 people and try to grab a seat you want. The problem is they let people that "need assistance" (no proof required) board first so many people claim they need assistance. Also, people that pay to be in the first group will often pay the extra just for one person in their family and try to hold seats for the others that didn't pay for early boarding. There is no first/business class seating/amenities, only cattle class. Southwest doesn't have any power supply for passengers either, but some of their planes (not all) will when they switch to assigned seats.
**Depending on the flights/carriers/airports Rows 1-13 board from the front of the plane & above 13 from the rear - with divided entrance chutes to keep pax separated & hasten the process. Where the airport doesn't have divided boarding chutes, they call by seat rows; some board from the forward rows, others from the rear.**
That's not done here that I know of, but a few airports might have a bit of tarmac boarding (I've had to do that at Charlotte airport on an AA flight). Are stairs involved?
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I will tell you what’s REALLY NICE; When you have enough of the do-called “status” that you are met on the jetway and ushered down to a car which delivers you to the departing flight gate so you do not miss your connection.
Trust me it can get addictive and you miss it when it does not happen
Trust me it can get addictive and you miss it when it does not happen
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Percy lest I forget, I recently mentioned you over on the resurrected Lonely Planet 'Thorn Tree' forum (Reddit). I did not tell your handle name, rather just said you were a key poster here in a discussion about how LP just listed Edmonton in their brand-new list of 'Thirty Best Places to Visit in 2025.' I also mentioned how you head up the Grizzly Fence Committee for sector 7-B.
Bradley Whitford's 'Josh' character on West Wing struck a chord with millions. He was cast as a loyal and decent younger assistant to the president (Martin Sheen), a boyish yet hugely informed workaholic whose arc through the seven years of that show was very interesting. Apparently, writer Sorkin modelled Josh after Clinton's George Stefanopolous (sp?). There were many moments that rang true throughout Josh's adventures and misadventures: tragedy, comedy, hubris and basic human experience.
To this day, Mrs Z and I employ one of the funnier remarks once made by Josh's clever girlfriend, whenever one of us is too chatty:
"Not so much the talking you."
Dukey, you may once have crossed paths with my friend's younger sister on the jetways. She re-married a billionaire. Seems one time when she took their private jet from Tulsa to Toronto, the overnight parking fee for that craft here at Pearson Airport was $50,000!
I am done. the caffeine and the not-so-much-the-talking
Bradley Whitford's 'Josh' character on West Wing struck a chord with millions. He was cast as a loyal and decent younger assistant to the president (Martin Sheen), a boyish yet hugely informed workaholic whose arc through the seven years of that show was very interesting. Apparently, writer Sorkin modelled Josh after Clinton's George Stefanopolous (sp?). There were many moments that rang true throughout Josh's adventures and misadventures: tragedy, comedy, hubris and basic human experience.
To this day, Mrs Z and I employ one of the funnier remarks once made by Josh's clever girlfriend, whenever one of us is too chatty:
"Not so much the talking you."
Dukey, you may once have crossed paths with my friend's younger sister on the jetways. She re-married a billionaire. Seems one time when she took their private jet from Tulsa to Toronto, the overnight parking fee for that craft here at Pearson Airport was $50,000!
I am done. the caffeine and the not-so-much-the-talking
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[QUOTE=zebec;17606933]Percy lest I forget, I recently mentioned you over on the resurrected Lonely Planet 'Thorn Tree' forum (Reddit). I did not tell your handle name, rather just said you were a key poster here in a discussion about how LP just listed Edmonton in their brand-new list of 'Thirty Best Places to Visit in 2025.' I also mentioned how you head up the Grizzly Fence Committee for sector 7-B.
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zebec , Yes I heard that on the National news that our city was ranked in the top 10 of places to see. I just said to myself , "Really "!!!!!! hmmm somebody got paid off
also zebec, don't know if you remember but we were both at the Toronto Airport boarding.
I was I was in Zone # 1 ( boarding first) , you were in zone # 3 boarding 20 minutes later. !!
You zoomed by the Zone # 3 people , pushed your way through the Zone #1 people ( me) and stepped on someone's toe without even looking back to say "sorry"!!
Just to let you know my toe is still sore.
I'm done: The Persisting Toe Pain.
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zebec , Yes I heard that on the National news that our city was ranked in the top 10 of places to see. I just said to myself , "Really "!!!!!! hmmm somebody got paid off

also zebec, don't know if you remember but we were both at the Toronto Airport boarding.
I was I was in Zone # 1 ( boarding first) , you were in zone # 3 boarding 20 minutes later. !!
You zoomed by the Zone # 3 people , pushed your way through the Zone #1 people ( me) and stepped on someone's toe without even looking back to say "sorry"!!
Just to let you know my toe is still sore.
I'm done: The Persisting Toe Pain.